Hallo zusammen,
gibt es eine Möglichkeit in HA den aktuellen Preis von Tibber zu ziehen, ohne Kunde zu sein, bzw. ohne ein Konto zu haben? Ich überlege zu Tibber zu wechseln, und würde deshalb gerne testweise mal den Preis von Tibber ziehen und mit meinen Nutzungsgewohnheiten durchrechnen lassen. (Bzw. dann mal zu vergleichen ob sich ein Wechsel lohnen würde…)
Hat das schon jemand versucht?
Die Tibber Integration will leider ohne API Token nicht arbeiten 
Herzlich Willkommen in Forum.
Ich wollte schon wechseln leider probleme mit der Boni.
Zu deiner Frage hab ich mal gegooglet und bin auf den Beitrag gestoßen: Tibber API mit Livedaten - Solaranzeige / PV-Monitor
Getestet und funktioniert.
Ich weiß nicht in wie fern mir der Beitrag helfen soll. Der dort verlinkte Demo Token liefert nur random Werte, also nicht die tatsächlichen Preise die mich interessieren würden.
Ansonsten kommt man nur an einen Token wenn man dort auch ein Kundenkonto hat (soweit ich weiß), welches ich noch nicht habe.
Übersehe ich da noch was?
Hab mir das jetzt mal genauer angesehen. Der token von oben bringt dir leider nix. Also hab ich mich mal registriert damit das mit standort usw. passt. Das geht über die App auch ohne Stromvertrag bei tibber. Problem die Api zeigt dir dann keine werte unter Energie Preise. Also heißt wenn du das testen willst musst du den account haben von jemanden der in deiner gegend wohnt und der dir sein Token gibt. Anders geht leider nicht.
Falls es dir um den EPEX Spot Preis geht, dann kannst du dir mal GitHub - mampfes/ha_epex_spot: Adds EPEX Spot data to Home Assistant. anschauen.
Ich hab zwar keinen tagesaktuellen Float Tarif, aber interesseshalber installiert, um mich zu ärgern wie uns die Konzerne abzocken.
Der kommt bei mir so über die Integration an und stimmt auch mit den Preisen von epexspot.com überein.
Ahhh Danke… Du referenziert auf die Attribute. ch nutze die “values”.
Danke Dir für die Erklärung.
Moin, falls es nicht zwingend Tibber sein muss, sondern es um die Preise geht, gibt es auch Awattar die eine API anbieten.
Danke für den Tipp mit der EPEX Integration. Hole mir die Daten jetzt daher mit der Schnittstelle zu Awattar.
Mal sehen wie sich das jetzt alles so entwickelt 
Wobei diese Preise noch ohne Netznutzungsgebühren etc. sind.
Gibt es denn eine Möglichkeit, den Tibber-Preis abzufragen, ohne Kunde bei denen zu sein? Die Börsenpreise von EPEX instessieren mich eher nicht, das sind ja keine Endkundenpreise…
schau dir die Epex-Daten vielleicht nochmal an.
Da sind auch Werte inkl. aller Gebühren und Kosten in der Integration dabei.
der sensor epex_spot_de_net_price steht dir zur Verfügung sowie auch epex_spotpreis_in_ct_kwh der 1. ist der und der 2 ist inkl. Spotpreis = + +
Danke dir! Ich sehe in meiner Integration allerdings nur einen Preis, der kWh hat, der Rest sind MWh. Der Preis mit kWh heißt sensor.epex_spot_data_net_price.
Wie genau heißt die EPEX-Integration, die du nutzt?
EDIT: Ich habe gerade noch mal einen Blick in die Doku der EPEX-HACS-Integration geworfen. Anscheinend fehlt bei mir der Market price-Sensor. Der Net market price ist wohl aber der, der Netzentgelte und Steuern beinhaltet. Der reicht mir ja. Trotzdem komisch, dass der Market price-Sensor fehlt.
schau mal in die Konfiguration der EPEX-Integration. Da steht bei mir folgendes und das wird zum Berechnen wohl genommen.
Ja, die Optionen kenne ich. Ich versuche gerade, damit den Tibber-Preis nachzubauen. Wir sind ein Mehrfamilienhaus mit 60.000 kWh Jahresverbrauch, da sind ein paar Cent Unterschied schon entscheidend. Ich will den Tibber-Preis so exakt nachbauen, um einschätzen zu können, ob sich der Wechsel dahin lohnt.
Kannst du einen Screenshot der Entitäten deines EPEX-Gerätes machen? Ich würde gerne sehen, wie die bei dir aussehen.
Ich habe damals via einfachem GET meine Daten geholt
https://tibber.com/de/api/lookup/price-overview?postalCode=XXXXX
Gibt ein JSON zurück
{
"priceArea": "DE",
"currency": "EUR",
"annualCompetitorCost": [
{
"competitorName": "Vattenfall",
"competitorType": "default supplier",
"assumedConsumption": 2500,
"energyTotalExVat": 869.95,
"energyTotal": 1035.25,
"fixedFeesExVat": 102.89,
"fixedFees": 122.44,
"yearlyTotal": 1157.69,
"yearlyTotalExVat": 972.84
},
{
"competitorName": "Fuxx",
"competitorType": "discount",
"assumedConsumption": 2500,
"energyTotalExVat": 628.78,
"energyTotal": 748.25,
"fixedFeesExVat": 88.32,
"fixedFees": 105.1,
"yearlyTotal": 853.35,
"yearlyTotalExVat": 717.1
}
],
"energy": {
"todayHours": [
{
"hour": 0,
"date": "2024-04-03",
"priceIncludingVat": 0.2895,
"priceExcludingVat": 0.2433,
"priceComponents": [
{
"type": "taxes",
"priceExcludingVat": 0.0758,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0902
},
{
"type": "power",
"priceExcludingVat": 0.0741,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0882
},
{
"type": "grid",
"priceIncludingVat": 0.111146,
"priceExcludingVat": 0.0934
}
]
},
{
"hour": 1,
"date": "2024-04-03",
"priceIncludingVat": 0.2867,
"priceExcludingVat": 0.241,
"priceComponents": [
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0758,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0902
},
{
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"priceIncludingVat": 0.0854
},
{
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0934
}
]
},
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"hour": 2,
"date": "2024-04-03",
"priceIncludingVat": 0.2846,
"priceExcludingVat": 0.2393,
"priceComponents": [
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0758,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0902
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{
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"priceIncludingVat": 0.0834
},
{
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0934
}
]
},
{
"hour": 3,
"date": "2024-04-03",
"priceIncludingVat": 0.2876,
"priceExcludingVat": 0.2417,
"priceComponents": [
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0758,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0902
},
{
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0725,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0863
},
{
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0934
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"priceIncludingVat": 0.0861
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0934
}
]
},
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"hour": 5,
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"priceIncludingVat": 0.2949,
"priceExcludingVat": 0.2479,
"priceComponents": [
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0758,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0902
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{
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0787,
"priceIncludingVat": 0.0937
},
{
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"priceExcludingVat": 0.0934
}
]
},
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"priceIncludingVat": 0.1403
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{
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{
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